Not to mention KLIV, the Fox News of Silicon Valley. Its all about the Mayor, Chamber, Rotary,CEO’s and the Leadership Group. Absolutely no opposing opinions, Charlie’s personal mouthpiece to spread his propaganda.

Confirmed liar many times over… used to be the masses had heroes that extoled traits all aspired too.

Now folks look up to liars like Chuck Reed…. we may be doomed.

The Merc just does a data-dump to the web.  All sort of stuff get swept up.  If you have to use your own car for work travel or stayed out of town for mandatory training and got reimbursed for it *** surprise *** Merc list that as salary.

First (to be clear) there is no need to redefine vested rights much beyond what it is already defined as. 

Once one has met the terms of a contract for say ones pension and they are “vested” in those things the pension contract says they have EARNED then what was EARNED is now the earners PROPERTY and cant be taken away without compensation.

Once earned you cant go back and say – ” ya you earned those things but that was under the old contract and now there is a new contract. Sure the old contract said you had to pay $X.yz but the new contract says that if you want to keep what you earned under the old contract you must now pay $X.yz + 4%(4years).  IF you don’t want to keep what you earned that’s even better, all you have to do is sign up for this other pension plan (which DOES NOT EXIST). ” 

THe other thing about “vested rights” is that an uninvolved third party (entity that was not part of the original contract can’t come in and change the terms of the contract – LIKE: voters changing the existing pension contract by approving Measure B.

When you talk about “rate schedules ever in effect” and market rate that is and isn’t a separate issue.

Pay rate contracts fluctuate as a function of factors like the economy and current market rates. SJPOA’s membership understands that and that was one of the factors considered when THEY agreed to temporarily give up 10% of their pay on a promise from the City that the reduction would only be TEMPORARY. 

SJPOA isn’t claiming that the 10% they gave up was a “vested right” that once they were paid it they could never not be paid it or that by giving it up SJPOA members had to be compensated in some way that was the equivalent of the 10%.

WHere the 10% salary reduction does come in to play in the “vested rights” world is that the Salary on which a pension is based on is the “Highest Year.”

So say an officer retires today and is earning 10% less than 5 years ago – his/her pension would be calculated off the salary 5 years ago. Take issue with that if you want but understand that it used to be the normal progression that salary increased with years of service instead of decreeing.

to sum this up, there is no need to redefine “vested Rights” since the current definition already covers your concerns.

Because they perform jobs that most either dont want to do or Cant do. Like fight fire, perform CPR,pull bodies from MVA’s, draw your weapon in defense of Life, Fight with Meth heads, notify people of a death of their love one, These are all things that happen on the regular here in San Jose.
  Public Safety is actively seeking qualified and motivated candidates. feel free to apply or pass the info along to any interested parties. But just remember you wont be getting the same pension , you will be required ( if Measure B passes, Which it won’t) to pay 46%of their paycheck to their own pension and retirement. not to mention increased payments for Medical/dental coverage that I know the Mayor says is free , But Its not.  and that can be easily verified. Reed is a proven Liar

Is this “grade inflation”?  Why is it that every time I meet a fire fighter, about half of the time he/she is a fire captain?

And we all know that if its in “The Merc” its gotta be true. Do some real research, the information is out there. we dont have to agree , but lets at least do our best to get at the truth

Good, you can count.  What is your point?

Typical troll bait.  TCOE is not salary but total cost of employee.  Every employer, public or private, has non-salary employee-related expenses.  But for some reason no one ever talks about those unless the employer happens to be public.

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