Comments on: Sierra Snowpack Falls to Lowest Level in 7 Years, as Worsening Drought Looms https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/ A look inside San Jose politics and culture Tue, 05 Apr 2022 23:42:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.6.12 By: Local Yokel Reprise https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729190 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 23:42:42 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729190 In fact, NEUTRINO78X, you may be aware of that MIT-Stanford study about keeping Diablo Canyon alive and well, and one option being to dedicate it fully to desalination. It can serve not only the Central Coast but provide water that’s pumped the opposite way of the State Water Project’s Coastal Branch or some other route to get to the Central Valley, and even supply developed So-Cal proper.

Diablo Canyon could produce an estimate 4.552+ million acre-feet per year. The latest version of the Delta bypass to send Sacramento River water south, the Delta Conveyance Project, is rated in the report at 1.000 million acre-feet per year. Diablo Canyon dedicated wholly to desalination could provide 4.5 times as much.

One of the very first, if not first, questions is, Why wasn’t this researched for San Onofre Nuclear Generating Station, when there was still time to save SONGS, for (developed and developing) So-Cal proper?

Links to things like this often get comments killed. The the title is “An Assessment of the Diablo Nuclear Plant for Zero-Carbon Electricity, Desalination, and Hydrogen Production” and searching for (independent words) “diablo canyon mit stanford” will find the main page and more for you.

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By: Work90 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729187 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 22:23:01 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729187 Vote out the dummies running the state for years then. Put someone in with different ideas.
Just a thought.

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By: CA Patriot https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729177 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 18:42:39 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729177 Now, it took only 2 hours to Cement the assertion that:
“too many people in California are Ignorant, Phobic, and Incompetent about nuclear energy.”

Posting someone’s wikipedia entry 2x does not prove a Lack Of Ignorance or Incompetence
– more-so it adds to its proof.

The gall to call someone who knows about, and has experience in the topic as “completely WRONG” is a sign of a Very Fragile Ego, the fact that Neutrino78X was kind enough to even reply to your totally moronic and wrong post on the topic should have given you some restraint.
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“Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak “psychological constitution,” that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate.
Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering, their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so – they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening.
Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable.”

“The one mistake we should not make is to consider their persistent and rigid refusal to admit they’re wrong as a sign of strength or conviction because it is the absolute opposite — psychological weakness and fragility.”

“These people are not choosing to stand their ground;
they’re compelled to do so in order to protect their fragile egos.”
(Guy Winch, Ph.D., licensed psychologist)

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By: CA Patriot https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729165 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 14:59:38 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729165 @Neutrino78X,
You are partly correct, but these power plants work on closed loop systems, and salt water will not work well within the reactor or steam loop. The sea water is very useful and used in the cooling loop – an open loop system, and as you mentioned, for making pure distilled water for both potable and power plant makeup water.

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By: CA Patriot https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729162 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 14:49:57 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729162 Amazing… it took less than an hour for LocalYokel to prove his assertion100% Correct.
“too many people in California are Ignorant, Phobic, and Incompetent about nuclear energy.”

More proof from the prodigious panic pontificator that:

“It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool,
than open ones mouth and remove all doubt” ­
­- Mark Twain

About the only thing he may be correct on is converting liters to gallons, a master on his unit(s)?

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By: neutrino78x https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729159 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 13:54:37 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729159 Steve,

“You cannot use sea water because the salt will ruin the reactor. ”

United States Navy submarine veteran here. Qualified in submarines.

The whole reason we use a pressurized water reactor on submarines is to use the saltwater that surrounds us. The reactor heats it into steam and the steam drives a turbine that turns the screw (propeller).

We make a ltle over 5000 gallons of potable water every watch day (18 hrs). This is shared by 100 enlisted members (females too now although not when I was in but I alway supported the idea) and 20 officers, so that’s 41 gallons per day per person for all potle water needs. It does mean we have to do submarine showers: water on for 2 seconds, water off, put soap on body, water on for 2 seconds, shower over.

But yes nuclear power is definitely capable of generating large amounts of potable water from seawater and lots of power without pollution.

Sadly a lot of people are ignorant of nuclear pr and have an irrational fear of it, ironic for this highly educated state. But I used tobspend months at a time living less than 600 feet from an active nuclear reactor and I don’t glow in the dark. My longest period underwater on nuclear power was 87 days in a row.

It’s a great source of power and we really need to keep that last reactor running and build more in the state.

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By: Local Yokel Reprise https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729141 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 01:07:38 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729141 Raise Shasta. Build Sites. That’s the low-hanging supply-boost fruit plucked.

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By: Local Yokel Reprise https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729138 Tue, 05 Apr 2022 01:05:47 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729138 The best way is nuclear, followed by hydro, to get clean, even emission-free, electrical power. That’s something else whose supply must increase, particularly with so many computers, electronic goodies, and nowadays “data works” increasing in appearance or number. That doesn’t even count the vast need for new high-power public EV charging in metro areas, not just on the Interstates on select routes, for example. As a small example, high-speed trains, if they ever appear and can run at high speed someday in California, are energy hogs. (The much greater efficiency of electrical propulsion is exploited enable speeds beyond what Diesels can realistically hope to sustain. Government in California and so many residents are too ignorant and intellectually incapable of seeing real trade-offs, as with LEDs and providing much more, better illumination, or accepting them if they’re ignorant or politically opposed, as with improved combustion in conventional motor vehicle engines — many select larger engines or vehicles when presented with the trade-off that is created.

The North Coast rivers and more on the Sacramento can be dammed, if the situation becomes bad enough, with or without ending Wild and Scenic status.

Nuclear is the choice for electrical power to provide desalinization, which is highly energy-intensive and must be located at the sea shore, but too many people in California are ignorant, phobic, and incompetent about nuclear energy.

Dems have been much worse than Republicans. as well as owning the state and most local governments for ages. Maybe the Dems will change their behavior if enough if their constituents face severe enough hardship their problem thinking and behavior are overcome.

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By: Work90 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729135 Mon, 04 Apr 2022 23:17:44 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729135 More Dams, Less Dems.

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By: Local Yokel Reprise https://www.sanjoseinside.com/news/sierra-snowpack-falls-to-lowest-level-in-7-years-as-worsening-drought-looms/#comment-1729123 Mon, 04 Apr 2022 18:01:49 +0000 https://www.sanjoseinside.com/?p=201193420#comment-1729123 This is no excuse for ClimaCult irrationality. Work on increasing water supply.

Also, don’t be surprised later if new, drier records are set from climate change.

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